Mick Garris: This big prison break and everything, I probably wouldn't have thought of that, or written that, because of the complexity of it.
Kazan: That's why I started with the accident and then worked back. I play for all the possibilities.
Garris: There would be no sum, because it would be flailing.
Elia Kazan: There is nothing dragged in that way, none of the nudity or sex is just put in.
Garris: Yeah, yeah. You can over-plan, and miss some magic.
Kazan: We were out on the prairie and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.
Garris: And then nobody went to see it. Nobody saw it, it was for Fox TV.
Kazan: I should have said no immediately.
Garris: It was very embarrassing. It’s hard to learn energy.
Kazan: Look [sitting up and playing with a match on the burned-out end of a half-finished cigar], I've gotten literally hundreds of letters, thanking me.
Garris: Not everything, but the ones on the DVDs were the ones that I thought would be the most interesting.
Kazan: Just some trims.
Garris: Just because.
Kazan: Look, does it make any difference?
Garris: No, no.