Fran Lebowitz: There's nothing like being old to be sure of everything.
Grant Morrison: Yeah, possibly. I was a clubber in the Nineties.
Lebowitz: I was a small sofa. It’s absurd.
Morrison: What the fuck is this, really?
Lebowitz: It’s the opposite of life. No, it’s carpeting.
Morrison: Pop music is the same.
Lebowitz: I said, "I know exactly what it's going to be like. It's going to be like Hair with AIDS." What’s the difference?
Morrison: It's hard to tell because most men try to avoid misogyny, really they do, in this world we live in today.
Lebowitz: Those kinds of people make very poor fictional characters.
Morrison: But I don’t know.
Lebowitz: It was very clear to people who have this sort of life who Kato Kaelin was.
Morrison: It was kind of that archetype, you get caught up in that story.
Lebowitz: You can’t have one without the other. Maybe if you're 20 and you just recently moved here from Omaha.
Morrison: We would go out and dance for a while, things like that but just that then put them in a taxi and say have a nice time.
Lebowitz: And that's why advice doesn't work.