Naomi Campbell: It's in my head. It's there. I remember.
Jeff VanderMeer: It just didn’t seem to want to be edited.
Campbell: Supposedly. That's what a vacation is—chilling, swimming, running.
VanderMeer: And then we tend to destroy things or change things before we even truly understand them.
Campbell: I was just asking myself that, because where I am right now, it was perfectly fine and quiet, and then I went outside, and there they were.
VanderMeer: Maybe she seems unreliable, but she’s very reliable, she knows exactly what she’s doing.
Campbell: She’s so much fun. I kidnapped her and that was it. It was very emotional.
VanderMeer: Well, I mean, the dream was the catalyst.
Campbell: Are you nervous when you go on the runway?
VanderMeer: No. [laughs] Yeah.
Campbell: But it depends, honestly, on where I am and what I'm doing.
VanderMeer: There is also the issue of what we can and can’t perceive through our senses.
Campbell: I didn't do it for 14 years, and I had to keep my appearance a secret for many months.
VanderMeer: But I got used to it.
Campbell: It comes with the job.