Francesca DiMattio: If it's not strong enough underneath, it will implode—but not when you think it will. I think that's the way it should be.
DP Beats: It can only help both of us.
DiMattio: It doesn't want to be vague.
DP Beats: I need to just go somewhere different and jump out there and see what I can get.
DiMattio: If you want to jump now, you should. I have to eat.
DP Beats: I couldn't see trees. I didn't see cars.
DiMattio: Both have this untouchable porcupine surface.
DP Beats: Not doing too much, but still having just enough.
DiMattio: They were. [Laughs] It obviously was not, but he made it seem really possible.
DP Beats: Once everything was on there, he'd be passed out on that white leather couch, I'd still be up.
DiMattio: You look up and the ceiling is falling down with layers of dirt.
DP Beats: I was emailing, emailing, emailing. But it all worked out.
DiMattio: Yeah, I use a lot of underglaze just as they would in the Ming Dynasty.
DP Beats: Then my cousin threw me a Yamaha keyboard and I would just remake everything I heard on the radio.
DiMattio: I spent a lot of time alone.