Jake Phelps: When I was a kid if you skated, it wasn't the weed dealer that was cool, the tagger, the guy selling drugs, the best people were always skaters, they always were.
Anna Sui: They all grew up so close, and now everybody’s kind of scattered, so it means so much when we can get together.
Phelps: That's it, that's the key to longevity.
Sui: Yes. It got me through so many dinners because I was so intimidated, but you found that people just loved to talk about their vacations.
Phelps: I don’t fucking care.
Sui: Papier-mâché heads. You can’t throw these things away.
Phelps: I'm old, I don't pay attention to a lot of that stuff.
Sui: Of course. Well, that’s the great thing about traveling.
Phelps: The Bay bridge just fucking collapsed, thousands dead downtown.
Sui: Oh my God. Where did they get those jackets?
Phelps: I know which ones are my favorite.
Sui: And then of course it’s always fun to try the new trendy ones.
Phelps: Utopian societies where people tell you about how perfect their worlds are, they're lying.
Sui: Every day it gets better because all the juices just melt together.
Phelps: I was born there, my mother was born there. Next.