Pop Culture
Jun 11, 2014, 08:37AM

Most People Don't Grow Up

A 2011 The Quietus interview with musician Michael Stipe vs. a 1990 Paris Review interview with the late author Maya Angelou.

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Maya Angelou: The minister in my church in Arkansas, when I was very young, would use phrases such as “God stepped out, the sun over his right shoulder, the moon nestling in the palm of his hand.”

Michael Stipe: He knew how to take drugs and not die.

Angelou: That’s the great compliment.


Stipe: Some of them, very young bands who were the new great new hopes of New York.

Angelou: They are there like griffins hanging off the sides of old and tired European buildings.

Stipe: The idea that they were going to put us off somewhere, lock us away, seemed completely real.

Angelou: Don’t ever mention this to me again.


Stipe: It's part of being a good parent, or a good boyfriend, whatever.

Angelou: That’s lovely. Most people don’t grow up.

Stipe: [rolls eyes dramatically] Oh God. I’d rather go get a good curry.

Angelou: Less than that is fossilized leaves. So what?


Stipe: But people don't remember how terrifying those rumors were. Now I see some of these people out at art openings, or from time to time they come to my house.

Angelou: When I turned around to come back in I found that the tide had come in over my head.

Stipe: The second it went out, it wasn't ours.


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