Ben Lerner: I often have very intense dreams that I remember, although when I’m recounting my dreams I find myself often unsure what I’m recounting and what I’m making up.
Camille Henrot: Yeah, maybe. What I am doing is very different.
Lerner: I can sympathize with this kind of negativity. Are you in Brooklyn?
Henrot: Absolutely. I mean, you’ve probably gathered that I'm very anti-corporate and anti-bureaucratic.
Lerner: I think we should worry about the radiation.
Henrot: Sometimes narrating an emotion is the best way to deal with it.
Lerner: To a certain extent you can’t.
Henrot: I have hope.
Lerner: I’m trying to picture that.
Henrot: There is a long, looping bar that ends in the shape of piano keys. Next to it is a number pad.
Lerner: That’s when the Challenger exploded, which was the first of the televised disasters, and also when that girl fell into a well and became a star.
Henrot: I don’t remember.
Lerner: I’ve done that a little lately. I’m at a residency.
Henrot: Yeah, they are a bit hypnotic. They lead you to some extreme wonder about yourself and how other people think about you.
Lerner: I don’t know if they are aggressive, but it’s a good time to chat, because I am afraid of them.