Morton Subotnick: I had something I needed to do and I needed to find a way to do it myself.
Joe Carducci: It was a nine-foot ceiling and a three-inch stage and it was full of people.
Subotnick: This was my vision. Those were my heroes.
Carducci: Probably not in a generic sense.
Subotnick: Sometimes I pull back.
Carducci: Is there a young audience for Westerns?
Subotnick: Oh, yes! And that grows into something else and gradually it ends.
Carducci: It never did register. That’s why I sorta laughed about it because even he didn’t know what had happened and what they were gonna go back to.
Subotnick: That was very meaningful.
Carducci: I wasn’t even there.
Subotnick: A lot of it is cerebral: You’re thinking, and feeling, and you’re making things happen.
Carducci: Yet it has to happen. Realism has to trigger fantasy and fantasy has to be grounded in reality for things to work best.
Subotnick: Yes. The visuals have to be a counterpoint, and a parallel performance.
Carducci: Even if somebody is awake to it they would dumb it down and iron it out to two dimensions from the three or four dimensions of any living work.
Subotnick: Yes, it was my life’s work. [Laughter] I developed what I thought was me a hundred years from now.