Pop Culture
Oct 28, 2015, 10:13AM

This Would Make a Great Instagram Photo

A 2001 Sculpture interview with land artist David Nash vs. a 2015 Momus interview with painter Dana Schutz.

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Dana Schutz: Sometimes it’s easier to deal with things you don’t like, that rub you the wrong way, that irritate you.

David Nash: Yes. I was presented with a huge dead elm tree in Ireland that had been dearly loved by the owner.

Schutz: There’s this collision between his body and the piano, like he’s sliding into the picture plane and the piano is being shoved back.

Nash: It upsets quite a lot of people. I lit it up on the inside with some submerged candles so it just flickered.

Schutz: This would make a great Instagram photo.


Nash: There are shapes and combinations that seem to be universally satisfying.

Schutz: Sometimes. It depends. They’re like storms.

Nash: There is no shamanism. What really happens there?

Schutz: You can see its seams, and the coat is the color of canvas.

Nash: What I hadn’t anticipated was that people liked to walk on it.


Schutz: The only way it could really work would be with that eye-contact with the viewer, and a hand against the back plane; moments that stop the action, that grant access to the viewer to what’s going on.

Nash: Making objects, making gestures that are sustained in a certain place, knowing that other people are going to see it encourages other people to be aware of it.

Schutz: So much about that includes a kind of balance, so you can feel the way that something is structured in your body.

Nash: The whole point of these pieces is the nothing.
Schutz: I really want to see it again.


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