Frank Stella: One of the advantages of being young is that you're quite flexible, you move around. That’s just a given.
Nikki Giovanni: That means you have to wipe five years of experience out of your life, and it can't be done.
Stella: You just go down to certain places where they need temporary help for painting. I met people.
Giovanni: Nobody wants to publish us.
Stella: It’s possible. The idea is to go beyond it, right?
Giovanni: [Laughs] You could say that.
Stella: You could say all of those things. [Laughs] Oh God.
Giovanni: I can just look at them and know.
Stella: So they got rid of the guys from the top; they skimmed us off.
Giovanni: All they want to do is call you on the phone and talk to you or have lunch with you.
Stella: Yes. They have to have dimensionality.
Giovanni: I'm sorry I can’t stay longer, but I have a very busy schedule and have to get back to New York tomorrow. If you don't think that you're black, then don’t worry about it. I don’t know if you follow me.
Stella: Not so much. No, I didn't notice the difference.
Giovanni: Am I right or wrong? I’m serious.
Stella: So what? The prices just went up.