Bob Geldof: I’ve only got a couple of hours, and an intermission.
Ellen “Allien” Fraatz: It allows you to dream.
Geldof: You could articulate that into the songs.
Fraatz: Completely. The city gives me power.
Geldof: Yeah. It’s unexpected, but not unusual.
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Fraatz: I want to have fun and leave my reality behind. The clubs were so important. They were very aggressive.
Geldof: They sucked up your digital exhaust and sold it on.
Fraatz: It took me years to learn not to fear the future.
Geldof: Even that is very limited: working at a slaughter-house, riding heavy-machinery—yada yada yada.
Fraatz: I started working at a bar called Fischlabor. I started fashion college, but left after a year because I hated it. I couldn’t dance to it.
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Geldof: Politically, socially, economically, philosophically, theologically.
Fraatz: If we don't like it, we throw it away.
Geldof: Literally it happens all the time.
Fraatz: I love it, but sometimes I hate it.
Geldof: I think you’ve realized that over these short minutes together.