Taylor Swift: Nothing you do is going to make the pain stop.
Phil Spector: You have to know what you can't do much more than what you can do, because it's obvious that you know what you can do by doing it.
Swift: Yeah, totally. Weird, right?
Spector: I don’t know yet.
Spector: I don't remember where we were. You asked me something.
Swift: Are you sure? Are you positive?
Spector: I’m willing to bet on it.
Swift: And I know exactly what they’re talking about, because we have these moments and these memories that bond us, like the time I looked out there and saw everyone dancing, when it was the complete opposite of what I thought they were going to do, and it’s those moments of human interaction that happen on tour that you can’t get just watching a song climb the charts, sitting in your house.
Spector: The underground sort of does the same thing. Can you imagine that?
Swift: I’m always up for trying something.
Spector: It’s going to get boring.
Swift: Why does that matter?
Spector: It’s just a matter of taste.
Swift: Yeah. I think there’s a way to artfully do it.
Swift: I’m going to be playing to no one.
Spector: It’s almost like being psychotic.
Swift: I just keep writing songs.
Spector: That bothers me a little bit.