Kaseem Ryan: It is kinda bittersweet. But it's out of necessity. You know what I’m saying?
Ted Chiang: Yes, yes. [Laughs] I think it has reached a level where I have to take some action.
Ryan: But that didn’t happen.
Chiang: Well, I don’t read Asimov anymore, if that’s what you mean.
Ryan: I don't know if guys do that these days. The city starts pricing everybody out.
Chiang: That sort of thing happened to us constantly. There are a lot of different reasons for why that happens, but nothing lasts very long in the current software landscape that we live in.
Ryan: Especially in this climate, you put something out and 15 minutes later there's something new.
Chiang: How many people are going to be able to make a living off that?
Ryan: I'm the record label, the only artist, the distributor, the video guy. I'm everything, man.
Chiang: There’s raising the emotional stakes; in screwball comedy, the situation for the protagonist usually gets worse, so there’s a doubling of the complications that Cary Grant has to juggle.
Ryan: If you give somebody a diamond every day, then after 300, 400, 500 diamonds, that first diamond you gave them don't mean shit.
Chiang: Sometimes. Is that what you’re working your way toward?
Ryan: I’ve always thought of that. Bob Marley’s still alive.
Chiang: So you’ve seen the whole thing.
Ryan: I’m ready to die now.