Frank Ocean: We’re talking about hundreds of things that happened.
Ralph Nader: They were never charged with anything.
Nader: It just shows you what a few lawyers can do.
Ocean: I’d sit in these rooms for hours. Just a broken person. It was crazy.
Nader: That’s the exact word he used: fascism.
Ocean: I was at a real dark time in my life when I met them.
Nader: It was all downhill after that. We have it all documented.
Ocean: The path to that isn’t an easy way, but it is a rewarding way.
Nader: No, not at all. They did raise a lot of money, and they sold their conscience.
Ocean: It became effortless. You just kind of roll.
Nader: Yes, of course. They do not look in the mirror.
Ocean: Yeah, I just told them, "Give me $1 million if you want the next album."
Nader: If they want to open communications, they need to preface it by apology.
Ocean: So I did. So much upkeep on a lie. He didn't speak a terrible amount, but you could tell there was a ton on his mind—like a quiet acceptance of how life had turned out.
Nader: He has a hard core of steel to him, and we’ll see what happens.
Ocean: He was screaming at the end. I haven’t seen him since.