Yayoi Kusama: The idea was to obliterate individuals and contain them in the eternal world.
Angel Bat Dawid: And then they start crying. They resist it. They’re young.
Kusama: They couldn’t catch us. Not for the last ten years.
Dawid: I chose to live and exist in that type of paradigm.
Kusama: You can neither die nor live with ease. But doesn’t everybody?
Dawid: Can we change that?
Kusama: Very often. Even now.
Dawid: Period. But the thing is that we have to talk about this stuff.
Kusama: And the opening party was a lot of fun, with so many young artists coming to talk to me.
Dawid: This was in the Netherlands and we were heading to our Airbnb.
Kusama: In front of the statue of Alice in Wonderland in Central Park, and on Wall Street, and in front of the Statue of Liberty.
Dawid: That experience was also jarring because Bahia is supposed to be the Blackest part of Brazil.
Kusama: I suddenly imagined it, and was driven by the urge to make it.
Dawid: Yeah, and you know what? (Laughs) I’m busy, busy.
Kusama: But I’m so busy that I can’t even think of dying. That was part of the show. This is the sea bottom and these luminous things are living creatures.