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Nov 20, 2025, 06:28AM

Ultimately, The Painting Takes Over

A 2003 January Magazine interview with novelist Lee Child vs. a 2010 Per Contra interview with artist Diane Burko.

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Lee Child: I was in San Francisco, so figured I'd go look at the Tenderloin part of town, which is rough.

Diane Burko: Then there was my three-hour, breathtaking flight from the south of Iceland, Hofn over Jokolskarlon, Vatnajokull glacier, Askjar and onto Myvtn in the north in 2002.

Child: The truth is, people aren't necessarily looking for the lowest common denominator.

Burko: Correct. Ultimately, the painting takes over.

Child: Do you enjoy much TV these days?

Burko: Then the projector is turned off.

Child: So I was faced with finding another way to make a living.

Burko: That process entails my discarding a majority of them.

Child: Only we readers know different.

Burko: What I value most is the concept of wonder.

Child: And the results are obvious to see. If everybody else is doing it, I won't.

Burko: Their records go back to the 19th century.

Child: I'd start all the way back with The Odyssey and work forward through the chivalric sagas of the Middle Ages—Beowulf, Gawain and the Robin Hood myths.

Burko: In the seventies, my sources were National Geographic, calendars, Arizona Highway magazines.

Child: You live and learn.

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