Pop Culture
Mar 29, 2023, 06:28AM

That’s the Secret

A 2011 Willow Springs Magazine interview with poet Matthew Dickman vs. a 1999 Index Magazine interview with model and actress Isabella Rossellini.

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Isabella Rossellini: At the beginning I was a bit offended.

Matthew Dickman: And kind of naive. You know? This is life.

Rossellini: In magazines. They become mythical.

Dickman: The cash registers were right there in my view, and there were all these magazines at the cash registers and the person who always came to switch out the magazines walked into my view.

Rossellini: He can improvise a show in front of 100,000 people. (both laugh)


Dickman: Which is not very free at all, for any of us.

Rossellini: You don't see the revolution, you just hear all the noise and chaos going on outside.

Dickman: Something was going to happen or something had just happened. So we called and lied to her.

Rossellini: ‘79. She’s still alive.

Dickman: I mean, fuck, we're going to die.


Rossellini: It's like winning the lottery and that's it—it stops right there.

Dickman: I always tell people to do that. Why buy the book?

Rossellini: Because when you're twenty you know that one day you're going to be forty or fifty.

Dickman: Other things will come up. But empathy is the most important thing a human being can do.

Rossellini: That’s the secret.


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