Slavoj Zizek: Writers are expected to have a stupid two- or three-line biography.
Eileen Myles: It's like forever—it's many, many little rooms making a big room.
Zizek: Phobic. I could have caused chaos and remained unidentifiable.
Myles: Oh, totally. It's totally about time. Didn't anyone in the picture notice?
Zizek: The standard answer is that pornography caters to the male viewer.
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Myles: You were filming it, recording it, you just didn't know how to speak it.
Zizek: Yes. Freedom for me is the idea of talking into a totally empty space.
Myles: You know, the mortality, the dying, the fact that nobody would ever want to hear from this dyke, and of course, I was going to work with that and use that and talk about that, because I had to, because that was my ecstasy, to be present with who I am.
Zizek: But the work must adhere to a certain inherent artistic logic.
Myles: That's exactly what we're doing.
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Zizek: You should love your neighbor as if he were already dead, because the only good neighbor is a dead neighbor.
Myles: Who doesn't want to do that now? Like, a poet could have that dream, is having that dream.
Zizek: Absolutely. I like trash culture tremendously.
Myles: I like a little bit of oblivion.
Zizek: Yes. (Laughs) Possibly.