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    Jul 06, 2015, 01:24PM
    DeFillipo is wrong on a number of counts, but I'll just point out that he completely misunderstands the story of Luddites. The Luddites smashed factory equipment not as a protest against technology, but as a cry of pain that they as textile workers were being impoverished by new forms of work organization. The revolt of the Luddites should be understood as workers striking back against cruel and inhuman treatment, not a desire to impede technology or deny historical truth.
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    Jul 06, 2015, 01:00PM
    Last I checked, Osama wasn't a U.S. citizen and didn't represent the views of roughly half the U.S. populace at the time, making your analogy ridiculous and insulting. Secondly Noah, I think you are missing context. The victors write history and who is and is not considered a traitor is the result of that victory/loss, therefore Lee being a traitor is hardly the unbiased fact that you state it to be. Of course slavery is now considered an ugly and unjustifiable offence but when put in context, can you really argue that the U.S. would exist as a world power today had it not been for the economic benefits of slavery? England has had good and bad monarchs, should the bad be eliminated from the public square and denied existence in the history books? Should Caesar, who enslaved those he beat in war also be eliminated from history because of his pro-slavery stance? If we forget our history, are we not doomed to repeat it? Although I often get shit for my anti-confederate views here in Texas, (I don't buy the states right bullshit arguments myself) I do recognize the social and economic drivers and the difficulties intertwined in the dismantling of a human injustice i.e. slavery and can empathize not with the pro-slavery side but the effects that such a dismantling can/did have on a large part of the U.S. psyche and wealth of the time. In other words, it's easy in hindsight to take your position but in reality, it was not the one-dimensional disagreement you like to pretend it was.
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    Jul 06, 2015, 12:34PM
    I used to live in Charlottesville, unique in that it has both Lee Park - with a statue of Robert E Lee - and Monticello. The park may now come under pressure. Not sure what the odds are it gets changed. There will be no pressure to raze Monticello though, because TJ wasn't a leader of the Confederacy, of course. He also helped build the nation Lee tried to break apart.
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    Jul 06, 2015, 10:38AM
    Like, if you want to keep the monuments up with a big plaque about how Lee was a traitor and fought on behalf of evil and we're leaving the statue up to remind ourselves that this country loathed and loathes black people and we should be ashamed of ourselves, I guess that would be okay. Somehow that's not what I think Lee's descendent is hoping for, though. And Lee had slaves. He didn't manumit them. Blair Lee's email is a disgraceful apology for slavery and the Confederacy. Isn't it time we got this ahistorical, self-justifying, racist false history off the landscape?
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    Jul 06, 2015, 10:35AM
    This piece seems pretty confused. Monuments are about honoring and promoting a certain interpretation of history. They don't just neutrally communicate history. Statues of Robert E. Lee don't just remind us that he existed; they say he was cool, and deserved a statue. He wasn't, and he doesn't. The problem with this piece can be summed up here: "Revisionists who want to paint Lee, today, as a traitor..." Lee was a traitor. He committed treason against the United States and fought against his country in the name of slavery. That's evil. It's also treason. If anyone in history has ever been a traitor, then Lee is a traitor. But somehow it's "revisionist" to point that out. And that's used as an excuse for the U.S. to have all these monuments to this traitor, because he was also kind of a nice guy and occasionally felt bad about being a traitor. Should we have monuments to the terrorists who flew planes into the WTC? They're part of American history too, right? Why should we whitewash history by refusing to erect monument to them? let's have Osama bin Laden Park. If you object, you're a Luddite who's trying to erase history!
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    Jul 06, 2015, 03:15AM
    Thanks, man!
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    Jul 05, 2015, 03:28PM
    Sub. The rainbow flag is getting a lot of ink just now, which is why I picked it over, say, Che tee shirts. I'm certain your responise would be the same. American flag, meh. Uncontrolled violence...meh. Che tee shirt....outrage. But it was a good example of the "fox" attempt at discrediting information you find both valid and inconvenient. Didn't work. Never does.
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    Jul 05, 2015, 11:48AM
    1. I haven't accused anyone of homophobia.Just thought your gratuitous mention of the rainbow flag was odd. 2. The only actual point I tried to make here was that when someone says Hillary is ineligible to run, you can safely ignore any other opinion they might offer. The rest was just trying to get a rise out of you, which is about as hard as catching a perch in Saranac Lake. 3.You sure do go on and on and on.....
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    Jul 05, 2015, 11:21AM
    Never saw you as being above it all.
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    Jul 05, 2015, 07:36AM
    CT. I guess this is where the lonely above-it-all types leave their world-weary....stuff on Independence Day.
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    Jul 05, 2015, 07:34AM
    Sub. FYI. The accusation of homophobia is as dead and worn out as the accusation of racism. But, since you seem unable to grasp the point, I'll put it this way. You initially tried to "fox" your way out of the flag-banning. When that didn't work, you gave us a "who cares" on student clothing. Then it was a "non-issue". All of which because you got busted on the fact--you tried to pretend it hadn't happened in the first place--and were trying to weasel your way out. The point about the rainbow flag is to suggest your concern about flag banning tracks with the flag being banned. US flag, meh. Rainbow flag...outrage. We get it But, anyway, the appeal to "fox" didn't work. Never does, but some folks don't learn.
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    Jul 04, 2015, 06:28PM
    Hmmm, I wonder what you are suggesting with that rainbow flag comment.