Donatella Versace: And you want to get up and change everything.
Julian Casablancas: But then once you overdo it, it gets ugly.
Versace: It’s too literal.
Casablancas: I don't really care about clothes, but it's about wearing something that gives you social confidence.
Versace: I listen to a lot of pop music. I listen to Metallica.
Casablancas: It's tricky, because you can fall into Phil Collins territory pretty easily.
Versace: I was inspired by a combination of metallics, in thread and wool and cashmere—all done with metallic fibers. Also we did strong colors, big trench coats with very feminine dresses underneath.
Casablancas: But it's a fine line between that and Edward Scissorhands.
Versace: It was revealing, and then it was decoration. It’s so modern.
Casablancas: So I ended up working from what I wished it was.
Versace: I’d wear a miniskirt and patent-leather boots.
Casablancas: That's the Bruce Lee movie where he has to go up to different levels and he fights Kareem Abdul Jabbar at the end.
Versace: The runway went from one side of the hall to the other, with the models coming out one way and going back another.
Casablancas: Would I prefer it was some kind of urban wasteland?
Versace: Yes, you tell me what you think, honestly.
Casablancas: I don't want to kill your buzz.
Versace: You wanted to express that in either a more innocent way or a more sophisticated way.
Casablancas: The format is just a bunch of quotes, which I thought was really rad.
Versace: I loved the contrast.
Casablancas: I don’t know what to say.